"Our Children and Grandchildren are not merely statistics towards which we can be indifferent" JFK

Tuesday, July 26, 2011

Mr. "I reject the word compromise" Boehner's budget reduces debt on our grandchildrens' back by a pathetic $850 billion over 10 years

Yes grandchildren, the same man who rejects the word compromise, yet voted yes to an Iraq Shock and Awe (while voting yes to make the Bush tax cuts permanent), will not let his buddies to pay for Shock and Awe (a.k.a. pass it along to the grandchildren), is tightly bound to his lobbyist friends, votes yes to bail out banks via TARP,  and then drafts a budget that removes $850 billion (6% of our current deficit) off your back over 10 years. This is the same Mr. "reject compromise" that grew up in a family of 12 children (including sisters) with one bathroom.

Grandpa remains party agnostic. Take Harry Reid's budget for example...smoke and mirrors and he too does not care about what debt ultimately ends up on the backs of our grandchildren. Grandpa's bottom line (no pun intended): you can wrap a box full of dog poo in Red State paper or Blue State paper and it does not change the gooey mess in the box let alone the stench.

The Hill
By Erik Wasson

The Congressional Budget Office has told House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) that his debt ceiling fallback plan will reduce the deficit by about $850 billion over ten years.

House GOP rank-and-file have been waiting eagerly for the score since they are worried the bill would not measure up to claims made about it by House leadership. Leadership on Monday said the bill would reduce discretionary spending by $1.2 trillion over ten years.

The CBO revealed the score in a Tuesday letter to the speaker.

The score is against the latest CBO baseline as adjusted to reflect the 2011 spending cuts deal between Congress and the White House that cut $38 billion in budget authority. Those 2011 cuts have ripple effects over the budget window.

The CBO has also determined that taking that earlier deal into account, the spending levels in the Boehner plan is a $1.1 trillion cut in the deficit.

Most of the effects of the Boehner plan come from caps it imposes on discretionary spending. Next year the cap is $1.043 trillion, a $6 billion drop from current levels.

Actual federal spending outlays in the ten-year period would be reduced by $710 billion relative to that March baseline, CBO says, if the discretionary spending caps in the Boehner plan are instituted.

Overall, savings in discretionary spending is cut $695 billion, mandatory spending is cut by $20 billion, and the savings in interest equals $135 billion.

CBO also looked at other more minor provisions in the Boehner bill. One would provide extra funding for Pell Grants to students and this costs $17 billion, while another would limit other student loans saving over $30 billion.

The Boehner plan is a two-step process whereby the debt ceiling would be raised before Aug. 2 and then again next year.

The CBO score reflects part one of the process, which grants President Obama the right to request a $900 billion increase in the debt ceiling, slightly more than the amount CBO says the Boehner plan cuts from combined deficits compared to the March baseline.

Boehner this spring said Congress would only raise the debt ceiling if spending cuts exceed the amount by which the debt ceiling is raised.

CBO does not assign a score to the second phase of the Boehner plan which would require a joint committee to come up with a plan to cut $1.8 trillion from the deficit by Nov. 23.


  1. Your disgust is well stated, old Grandpa.

    The conundrum is, of course, that we not only need to reduce our debt (and the deficits that have created it,) but we must have the economy restore its GDP so that we have the capability to reduce the debt. Right now, the GDP is foregoing about $2 trillion dollars per year compared to pre-2008 levels. Proposals that are being bandied about have had a 10 year time horizon. If we continue without a stimulative policy at this rate, we are talking about the U.S. economy losing $20 trillion during the period being considered. This means that our grandchildren will be robbed of this additional amount of wealth.

    Monetary solutions have been exhausted (we are at the zero lower bound of interrest rates.) It is clear that no matter how much liquidity the Fed injects into the economy, this has no stimulative effect. After all, the private sector is sitting on $2 trillion of cash and is not motivated to spend (invest) it - with a large unused production capacity (the high unemployment rate and the idle industrial capacity,) industrialists see no reason to invest or hire until demand for their products is evident.

    This leaves only the alternative of further fiscal stimulus. The countyer argument that this has already been tried is specious. The levels of fiscal stimulus enacted have been of insufficient scale to effect stimulus in the huge U.S. economy. This was argued at the time of the enactment of the Obama administration's stimulus package of about $800 billion.
    Government spending in the absence of private sector spending does not produce crowding out effects.

    What to do? Throw up our hands and allow nature (the markets) to take their course? The Japanese have already tried this (our country tried this 70 years ago.) The result for the Japanese has been the "lost decade" which is now almost 2 decades old. Of course, our experience of the 1930's resulted in the Great Depression. I submit that there is not a rational option of not implementing federal fiscal stimulus - it worked for 50 years after the institution of the reforms of the New Deal. We have only been brought to this state of affairs since the dismantling of the measures (read regulation) that imposed fair and free market rules.

    Not stimulating the economy with federal fiscal stimulus is an abdication of this generation's responsibility to our grandchildren by allowing the U.S. economy to disintegrate through lack of action to restore the GDP of our country and thereby permanently condemning our grandchildren to reduced standards of living.

  2. WOW! Great vent and grandchildren everywhere just gave you a standing ovation!